• Amberlight

    Spoiler alert: there will be a lot of comments pointing out that this is not how tank turrets look when forcibly detached from the vehicle.

    • NickDA

      Marvel wouldn’t lie to me would it??? Now I don’t know who to trust anymore…

      • Amberlight

        I’m actually looking forward to seeing people calculating an actual force required to forcibly detach the tank turret.

        • NickDA

          The scary part is that I know some of them will know that metric for some reason… to a startling degree of specificity… :D I think is is maybe the last page that will give them heartburn though… And we maybe even altered the dialogue in a bit of a “tribute”.

        • Sebastián Piriz

          Hey, who said Tenzin detached the turret by hand? I can’t open a can by hand but I can certainly bend the tin once I used the opener

          • Ian Brown

            Considering that a tank’s turret is bolted onto the turret-ring, and the ring is bolted to the hull. normally it takes significant fore to detach them. if we look at the turret ring in the image however, it is crunched up. additionally the fire looks to be partially coming up from below him, so its possible he managed to detonate, or partially detonate the tanks internal shells, which could have popped,d or partially popped the turret off the tank, allowing him to rip it the rest of the way off.
            as an example.

    • Some of these people need to learn to use their imaginations XD It’s not like Seba or I have ever ripped off the top of a tank before either XD

      • Sebastián Piriz

        Dont speak for me Dan.

        you don’t wanna see me angry…

      • NickDA

        I think that some of our readers are like the people who like to pick at plot holes in movies… it doesn’t take away from their enjoyment, its just part of what they love to do…

        • Except when some of them get mad and curse at me in angry comments :P

          • NickDA

            That’s just all of the passion and love… its like the silly book love languages, they forgot one of them with is: nerdy obsession…

          • Amberlight

            That’s a cultural difference. Harsh words are more acceptable in Russia so they don’t actually mean what it would look like with literal translation. Tone the harshness down about 33%:D

          • NickDA

            Haha… very similar in Argentinian Spanish… if you literally translated some of that you’d think they were mortal enemies about to kill one another and declare blood feud for generations…

          • Adriano

            Oh.
            OH.
            This explains a lot. Now I understand a bit better my russian friend xD
            He use to say about things he dislikes that they are “pure trash”. It’s kind of harsh and I’m always “Wooo, calm your horses !”

      • DeNitro

        No doubt there, but sad truth of our current world,, a safe bet all of us have forgotten how many pictures of smoking tanks detached of turrets two gulf wars and the media have exposed us to. Looks real enough to keep me away from it, ;-)

    • Amberlight

      Actually it’s not far from the truth, The visual part I mean. http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/andrei_bt/18425682/208114/208114_900.jpg

  • Nate the Robot

    He’s just taken out 5 tanks … but watch out, there’s a shadowy figure that appears to be carrying a shovel!

    • Adriano

      NOT THE SHOVEL

      • Nate the Robot

        “The Shoveler … is … HAMMERED!”

    • Matt [in Middletown]

      A Shovel appears!
      It uses “slap”, it is slightly amusing!

    • DeNitro

      A shovel or a crowbar? If you’re in a armored suit, someone with a mechanics “Can Opener” had best keep their distance. LOL

      • Nate the Robot

        Enemy says, “sorry, but I DO mean to pry”

    • PRAGUE RACE crossover with Seja!

      • Adriano

        YES, SO MUCH YES !

    • Gn8 the Questioner

      A challenger approaches!

  • Adriano

    If it’s so hot in that suit, HOW COME THAT WE DON’T HAVE A BIKINI JANE ?

    I AM HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED

    (now I wanna see Jane in a bikini so badly)

    • Amberlight

      If Tenzin won’t let the suit cool down we might see just that.

  • Adriano

    Also this page is 9/11

    Where are my falling towers ?

  • Don’t worry Tenzin, you can have all the ice cubes when you get back. We’ll fill a whole kiddie pool with them and you can lounge around in it aaaaall day.
    And if that put an amusing mental image in your head just now, my work has been done.

  • Eugene Lyssov

    Did you realise REAL size of aramatas turret? Im understand - you mean some other tant, or ligth vehikle. But - wy you draw it as armata???? Real armata is 4x time larger. Look at record of moscow Victory Day Parade.

    • Sebastián Piriz

      But on Demon Archives the timeline diverged several years ago! they designed a tank exactly like the Aramata, only 4 times smaller and not heavy at all…

      • Or, you know, you just used a picture of the Aramata as a reference for when you drew a tank, because you liked what it looked like, and that’s ok :)

        • DeNitro

          Some of us truly understand fiction with just enough reality linked in to make a better story. But you’re always going to have those who find something, be it the limit of speed of light in sci-fi, or the factory colors of 57 Chevys in historical fiction to debate with any author. If they want a limited non-fictional version to read they have a long wait, History and Reference books are written after things occur. :-)

    • Honza Prchal

      Some of us have spent decades trying to forget having to watch those, and not just those of us taught that we were liberated not by Patton, but by Soviets driving Ford trucks (plausible) arranged around Sherman tanks (barely plausible) wearing American uniforms (implausible) and who smoked American cigarettes and spoke English (Bwahahaaha!).

      • Eugene Lyssov

        And?

        • Honza Prchal

          Good answer. In retrospect, that Victory Parade comment was ungracious of me. I actually like Czarist symbols, but anything associated with the Reds makes my skin crawl, but I can understand why a modern Russian would not mind some of the traditions. I always will, though.
          That said, in a mostly low tech world (some of the adversaries look low tech enough for a grand abbatis line to work against them), it makes sense that a low profile lighter armored vehicle would catch on. It’s the sort of thing the Swedes built a number of (theirs were actually turretless tanks) since the threat is from man portable anti-armour shaped charges and dug pits. As for looking rather like an Armata, it could be soemthing of a cross between a Leopard and an Abrams too. The size is sufficient for a generally unarmored enemy, and gigantism to add armour was pretty ineffective against the swarms of Soviet armour that were armoured enough, and used the durable, fast and comparatively easy to repair Christy chassis.
          American armour WAS indeed too light (and had far too high a profile), but when up against equipment as superior as Tenzig’s people have, mass and speed are better defenses that size. In fact, if the machining tools are sufficiently computerized in the New Russian Federation, scaling them down would be easier than redesigning the vehicle.
          One could even use a smaller bore real cannon instead of an autocannon. Who knows how much shaped rounds and propellant improved before the cataclysm hit, and the Russians seem to have survived it all better than most.

  • Lirik

    Pfff, it is not the heat artificial limbs, he feels the heat from indignation of Russian-speaking fans. Simple thermodynamics. :-)

  • LOL @ Physics defying suit… <__> :P A bit of commentary that is decidedly pointed…

  • Sigh. Let my try to answer this clearly and simply, and set this whole thing to rest. I’ll start with in world explanations, and then comic creation realities.

    In world:

    1. The NRF made these tanks. They designed them, built them, etc, with the materials and equipment that they had, the factories that they had. Because of that, the tanks are lighter, less armored, less powerful, etc. And they could have designed them to look like the Armata or whatever, or however they wanted.

    2. Not only is our comic taking 100 years in the future, long after past models of tanks and numbers and designations stopped EXISTING or MATTERING, but it also has some alternate-history elements to it, with events in our real life past and present altered. Any tanks built in the FUTURE do not necessarily have any bearing or basis in the tanks of TODAY.

    Comic Making realities:

    1. It doesn’t really matter. I am not an expert in tanks. Seba is not an expert in tanks. We’re writing a story, and trying to tell it visually. I think that the point of “Tenzin fought some tanks and won” is definitely coming across. The precise details of tank models and cannon millimeters is irrelevant. I get that apparently a lot of READERS care about that, but us, the CREATORS, the people making this and providing it to you all for FREE, don’t care quite as much.

    If it hurts your brain for these tanks to look the way they do, use your imagination and imagine them different. Make the barrels smaller, the shape different, whatever. It doesn’t matter to me. It you can’t suspend your disbelief enough to ignore some technical difficulties with tanks, how are you following our story at all? WW3 with nuclear bombs but people are still alive? Sentient AIs in a computer the size of a melon? A cripple running around in a powermech suit? None of this is really THAT “realistic”.

    2. Building off that part about us as creators, producing this FREE content for you all. We are producing the story WE want to make. Not the story YOU want to read. We pay Seba to draw it out of OUR pocket. The awesome Patrons who support us on Patreon are awesome, but that $$ is just enough to occasionally advertise our comic or hire an artist to draw something special and extra. It’s not even close to enough to pay for the comic itself.

    So while I appreciate that we have readers who enjoy the comic, please remember that you are enjoying a free gift, and don’t come in with complaints and demands. Especially when you’ve never commented or offered any amount of support, EVER, in the past. It’s rather rude and offputting, and honestly makes me not want to make free stuff for you as much anymore.

    So while I to some level appreciate the fervor and excitement about the comic, investigating and talking about the plausibility of the sci-fi and whatnot, I’d really rather see it in the forum, directed towards other readers and talking about, than having it directed at us, the creative team, in such a rude/entitled/demanding tone.

    But hey, if you want to spot the couple hundred dollars to pay Seba to design perfect tanks and re-draw these pages, be my guest.

    • Adriano

      If I had money to throw at Seba, I’d make him draw some Jane in Bikini o/

      • I actually have a commissioned piece similar to this alread. I just don’t post it because I’m not comfortable with the “fanservice” nature of sticking female characters in scantily clad outfits for the sole purpose of titillation.

        • Adriano

          Hm yes, i see.
          Well actually I say I wanna see jane in a sexy outfit, but that wouldn’t be good bcs it’s really out of character.
          Although you can do it in a not fanservice way by making it a joke, at least I believe that.
          If you see what I mean ? I’m not really sure if I am clear xD

      • Sebastián Piriz

        I am strongly in favor of fans trowing me money

    • Chris

      I am enjoying your story. Please continue to provide me with free contents. ;)

    • Gn8 the Questioner

      For what it’s worth, I am enjoying your story and world-building and am looking forward to seeingreading more of it.

      • Thank you for saying so :) Positive comments do mean a lot to us.

    • You know you’ve made it big when you start getting people who like to excessively nitpick inconsequential details in your story.

  • Matt [in Middletown]

    Make the shovel welding challenger sing the machine song!
    Purify his code and essential cooling and lubricants in the fire of adversity!
    Reforge him into an instrument of the song!

  • PAOLO

    By the power of the Omnissiah, we shall prevail.

  • Sebastián Piriz

    it was sarcasm.

  • RTM

    Man, Tenzin. I just realized you missed a great chance to play people golf using that ripped of turret. Even if the barrel would bend quickly all you’d need to do is make at least a single shot, preferably with an enemy soldier. Hell, I can still hear the ghostly Wilhelm scream as it fades into the distance.

  • Hipopótamo

    Jane cannot help herself

  • toxic delirium

    That first frame reminds me of the page in Frank Miller’s “The Dark Knight Returns” where Superman is holding a tank. Nice work!

    • Sebastián Piriz

      I didnt remember either DKR or the first Hulk movie when I did this, but I can tell for sure by the look of the page that I had those images somewhere in my head and they ere a huge influence

  • Henrik Svantesson

    Very curious, is what he’s doing here considered normal in the setting? Are the suits generally rated to fight tanks, especially 5-on-1? Or is this considered an astonishing achievement that his commanders didn’t really expect him to survive? Or at least the populace didn’t think they had suits that good?

    If the flechettes could penetrate their armor you’d expect tank shells to do the same - there’s only so much you can do against projectiles of a certain weight and velocity when the thickness of your armor is counted in millimeters rather than decimeters.